Newbie Advice on Caring for Climbing Rose Bush

Please bear with me - I have little to no gardening experience. I have a single climbing rose bush. It’s planted directly into the ground without any compost or mulch. I am not a gardener, and I definitely do not have a green thumb. In the past, I have watered it, and used BioAdvanced All-in-One Rose & Flower Care Concentrate, which you can no longer get in NJ. On top of that, I saw a post that said it should not be used on climbing roses. :\ The roses come back every year & initially look great, then start to quickly die. I saw that the soil should really be tested, and we do have a Rutgers extension here that I can check with. The rose bush always starts with beautiful blooms, and then the leaves start to turn yellow and develop black spots, and the roses start to dry out, I’m sure because I just don’t know how to care for them. Right now all of the leaves are green, but I see that some of the rose petals are already starting to curl and darken, so they need immediate help.

I read here that Miracle-Gro Water Soluble Rose Plant Food (18-24-16) is good to use, especially for someone like me with little to no experience. Please let me know what you think about that. I would like to start to give my roses some help before they suffer and die. Should I add mulch or compost around the base of the plant? I truly appreciate any help that you can provide.

Best regards, Grace

P.S. - I tried to add close-ups, but it said that new users can only add 1 media attachment.

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Hi Grace, it appears to me what you wrote is most likely not due to anything you do, or don’t do, but simply the biology of the rose. From your photo, the rose appears to be Dr. Huey, the root stock upon which the majority of roses produced in the US are budded on to. Dr. Huey was a break through when it was introduced in 1914. At that point in history, “Dooryard Roses” were quite popular. They were climbers grown literally as you grow yours, to decorate the door to your home. Up to Dr. Huey, Dooryard Roses were all white to pastel colors. Huey was the first cold hardy, dark colored Dooryard Rose. A production accident around WWII showed it was also significantly better suited as a root stock for commercial production than what had previously been the standard.

Dr. Huey isn’t terribly disease resistant in most places. It succumbs to black spot, mildew and rust when those issues are present. Its flowers aren’t particularly long-lasting, either. From what you wrote, it seems you may be mistaken that something you could do might make the flowers last longer. Probably not. Dr. Huey is once-flowering, meaning it doesn’t repeat its bloom in a season, so once it has produced its crop of flowers, it’s finished for the year. That’s fine if it’s being grown in a short growing season climate so its flowering lasts nearly the length of the season, but where there could be further blooms before the weather turns too cold, it’s a disappointment. Replacing it with a variety which genetically flower repeatedly would solve your issues with flowers dying and not being replaced.

I don’t have a suggestion for any chemical intervention to prevent disease issues on the foliage as I don’t grow roses in a climate similar to yours. The disease pressures here are vastly different from those under which you garden and the literal races of fungi we face are different from yours. I would contact a local chapter of the ARS and ask for assistance from one of their Consulting Rosarians as they will be familiar with the fungal issues prevalent where you are and will know what products are suitable for the disease problems you face.

The Miracle Gro Water Soluble Rose Food will feed the rose but probably not do much to prevent yellowing of the leaves, nor will it prevent the flower petals from curling and darkening. It should make it grow larger and possibly produce a heavier single crop of flowers. Yellowing foliage can be caused by many factors, including natural aging of the leaves and being shaded out by new growth, so “yellow leaves” isn’t necessarily a “problem”. We grow roses for their flowers. The rose produces flowering to literally reproduce itself. Every organism in Nature is programmed to reproduce itself before it dies to perpetuate the species. Flowering is ovulation, hip and seed set is pregnancy, the literal biological reason for flowering. Flower petals are soft and fragile and not meant to last long periods. Some varieties do have longer lasting petal tissue than others. Generally dark colored petals don’t last as long as lighter colors because dark colors absorb more heat from sunlight and burn faster than lighter colored petals do. Generally, less double flowers last a shorter period than more double flowers and literally, a nearly 120 year old rose variety’s flowers won’t last as long as those of a variety bred many decades later, which was specifically selected for introduction because its flowers were long lasting and foliage more resistant to fungal diseases. All of this is meant to explain your expectations from this particular rose variety may not be realistic. It probably had performed better in other seasons with other products but performance will vary greatly from one year to the next depending upon the weather, disease pressures and even products used to assist the rose’s performance.

I honestly would contact a local rose society and ask for a Consulting Rosarian to visit your rose and offer suggestions of possible varieties which may perform better for you. They could even verify whether this rose is root stock and if there is anything you can do to enhance its performance. Quite honestly, if all you’ve done is kept it watered, it looks pretty doggone good in the photo! You may feel as if you don’t know what you’re doing, but that IS a good looking rose in the photo, so congratulations! Good luck!

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Wow, thank you for the quick and detailed response and that my rose bush is likely a Dr. Huey. I’m going to reach out to Rutgers and to the Penn-Jersey District of the ARS to see what they might recommend. I appreciate your taking the time to write such a thoughtful reply.

Best regards, Grace

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Thank you, Grace. You’re most welcome. Good luck. I’m sure they’ll have wonderful recommendations for you.

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Welcome to the forum. Do you have a tag for the rose or know where you bought it from? I don’t necessarily think it is Dr Huey. For sure get the soil tested. Knowing the pH and other nutrients it lacks is a start. It cannot hurt to add a few shovelfuls of compost around the rose and mulch it. Contacting a local rose society and consulting rosarian is a great idea.

I emailed Rutgers & the local rose society, but it’s a holiday weekend, so I don’t really expect an answer until next week. Definitely no tag & no idea when or where it was purchased from. It’s something that my mom probably purchased (unfortunately, my dad didn’t like flowers, bushes, trees, etc. - possibly because he was always cleaning up under a beautiful magnolia tree, which he ultimately cut down. :frowning: ) My mom passed in 2008, so this rose bush has been around for a long time. Thank you for the reply.

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Does the rose rebloom for you?

While it does flower annually, once the blooms are done for the season (which is always really quick, because they seem to suffer), it won’t bloom again.

Now it’s time to wait on your local rose society. Let’s see what they say.

Take a look at the climber Cherry Frost, hybridized by a woman. It is vigorous and puts out hundreds of smaller red blooms; An award winner too.